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How important is Experience in the scheme of life? (Poll)

Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:36 AM EST
odd-news, barack-obama, election, president, results, campaign, voters, learning, experience, honesty, courage, traditions, limits, open-mind, dead-mens-shoes, jamie-wallace-seattle-university
By Ms CYPRAH

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How much does experience matter to you?

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  • 176603
    Tons, one has to have it to be credible.
    20%
  • 176604
    Depends on the situation.
    70%
  • 176605
    I am not sure.
    0%
  • 176606
    Not really, as it can keep one stuck.
    2%
  • 176607
    Not at all. Learning is more important.
    7%

VoteTotal Votes: 44

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Jamie Wallace, a 19-year-old Seattle University student, speaking about why he was supporting Barack Obama in the last election, wrapped it up in one sentence: "Sometimes experience is not what you need. Sometimes, it takes a fresh eye to look at issues." (See Obama: We'll 'transform America')

Absolutely, because experience is often flaunted with little substance to back it up. Experience is also not a good thing to get results because experience has tradition at its core: dead men's solutions which suited their time, fear of risks and the constant grind of doing things in a certain way; a way which has been 'tried and tested' but which is guaranteed to produce the same, often debilitating, results.

Experience on its own keeps us in the past, saying the same old things, doing the same old actions, quoting the same old tired phrases, while a fresh mind opens new doors to possibilities and puts other options on the table. The trouble with this great 'experience' is that the more someone gets it, the more they believe they have all the answers and the less they seek to learn. Yet learning is the most important thing in our lives to widen our store of knowledge, to keep up with inevitable changes, to allow a new perspective and to prevent us being fossilised in the same ways of thinking and acting. One can be as experienced as one could be in dealing with people in America, but taking that experience to the UK or any other country will only be partially useful, until one becomes more aware of the social and cultural norms that govern that new society. A desire to learn and forget one's experience would be far more useful in that context. 

 

Experience and Work

One of the strangest phenomenon in the world of work is getting experience and then how it is perceived by those who have it. Everyone, especially younger recruits, begin a new job all wide-eyed and bushy tailed, eager to learn and to begin their journey on the career ladder. Ten years into that job, especially if the person hasn't moved away from it for other experiences, and he/she is likely to be fearful, clinging on to that job for dear life, feeling they cannot afford to take any risks to find another. Worst of all, they are likely to believe they cannot compete with anyone else because no other company would want them at that age and with that career history! Their long years of experience appeared to have counted for nothing. Instead of experience making them feel ready for other things, it keeps them stuck as their confidence falls. Thus they continue with their experience, getting the same results week after week, month after month, fearful of the wider world and new competition, while thinking how unworthy they have become.

The sad paradox is that the experience they have spent so much time acquiring appears increasingly useless in the face of their fears. So they will remain stuck in the same job as long as they can to avoid being rejected elsewhere.

Experience is a very limiting commodity in its use. It limits vision, aspirations, opportunities for change and, most important, it limits possibilities. Experience only sees itself, harps back to itself and promotes itself while preventing innovation and excitement along the way. Experience is also about the past, not the future because experience is a dead activity. It has already enjoyed it's time. A fresh new perspective, an open mind, a desire to learn what is necessary for the next situation, are all important arsenal in the competent leader's bunker. For example, no amount of prior experience could have prepared me for Newsvine, not even my writing skills. But having that open mind to see things in different ways has helped me to learn pretty fast!

In any situation experience gives you the confidence to be able to see which route MIGHT be beneficial, based on what has already been tried, but it does not guarantee that route will work because it is based on past results. An old result is likely to be the last thing one needs to apply to a new situation, especially when it is likely to have the same effect. Experience stops people from making decisions they should make because they are afraid to stray from the 'accepted' or 'expected' path, which means stagnation and dithering while nothing new is sorted or achieved.

The ideal situation for life is 40% experience and 60% open mind for learning and adding to it. In that way, we can always refer to what has gone before but with the confidence to know that there are also other possibilities not yet tried.

 

©Elaine Sihera (Ms CYPRAH) 2012
Emotional Health and People Management Consultant
"Happiness is a state of being. We are the ones who decide whether we wish to be happy or not, by the script we use inside our heads.
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Ms CYPRAH

Experience on its own keeps us in the past, saying the same old things, doing the same old actions, quoting the same old tired phrases, while a fresh mind opens new doors to possibilities and puts other options on the table. The trouble with this great 'experience' is that the more someone gets it, the more they believe they have all the answers and the less they seek to learn. Yet learning is the most important thing in our lives to widen our store of knowledge, to keep up with inevitable changes, to allow a new perspective and to prevent us being fossilised in the same ways of thinking and acting.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:36 AM EST
ERich-356044

I voted tons! The reasons why are numerous, but I only have time for one!

At work for example:

I have seen Principals that are placed in a school that have no experience teaching in a certain life span. (K-2 is a life span, 3-5 is another etc...) Having no experience teaching a certain span, they are far less likely to understand what happens in the classroom and therefore have made some very poor choices in leadership etc. The best leaders/principals have been ones that have taught all life spans.

Hope that makes sense.

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:47 AM EST
ryoushi12

It does to me.

Learning without experience means most often making the SAME mistakes over and over again. Experience is having learned what DOESN'T work, so for example, current republican and libertarian thinking are garbage to me, because my experience shows me that in the past those policies, taken raw, have failed miserably. Because that's what learning, finding out what works and what doesn't, and experience is remembering what has worked, AND what has NOT worked in the past. Without both, you are simple stuck doing the sames things over and over.

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:16 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Experience is having learned what DOESN'T work

Yes, I agree with that. It can prevent mistakes and repeating negative things.

I have seen Principals that are placed in a school that have no experience teaching in a certain life span. (K-2 is a life span, 3-5 is another etc...)

I agree ERich, in some regard, but I have seen such people who govern in entrenched ways, harking back to yesteryear, and bring very little of value to the classroom to motivate their students.

  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:15 AM EST
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Sparrow-2863685

Experience matters in learning from your mistakes, those are the most important life lessons.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:12 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Very true.

  • 1 vote
#3.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:17 AM EST
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hugh b

I believe intuition is learned experience. And anyone that has a long career in a specific field of endeavor will understand how valuable having a sense of a situation is while doing your job.

It can't be taught, experience is not just time in a job, it is listening, observing, and having humility. Too many people have come to believe that just having a title, rank, or position bestows upon them all that is necessary to do a job.

It took me years to be good at what I did. My failures never kept me down they became mortar for the bricks.

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:21 AM EST
Robert in Ohio

Ms C

Experience is tremendously important

experience is often flaunted with little substance to back it up.

In my opinion, this is a situation where the beholder is misinterpretation what experience really is, experience without substance is oxymoronic.

A demonstrable record of success (in school, in jobs of increasing responsibilities, in various fields, etc) are defining aspects of character, work ethic, ambition and initiative.

I worked for many years in Human Resources and utilized behavioral interviewing techniques to allow the applicant to present the whole package of of their life (work, personal and educational) experiences. I found that it work,

Yes experience is very important

Thanks for the article

  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:22 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Yes experience is very important

Thanks for the article

Thanks for your contribution, Robert. :o)

  • 1 vote
#5.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:18 AM EST
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ambivalent

This brings to mind my church people who like to say, "We have always done it this way". Some people are incapable of stepping outside a box, making modern changes and keeping up with the relevancy of today's world. Old thinking can really bog a company/group down. Experience has its place, but that place is not everywhere.

  • 2 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:28 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Experience has its place, but that place is not everywhere.

Great comment. It really depends on the situation and context. For example, doctors need that experience if they are not to put a life in jeopardy, while keeping an open mind for new practices.

  • 2 votes
#6.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:38 AM EST
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Jimmy the Goon

My first girlfriend was not nearly as satisfied as the ones on down the line. As a matter of fact, they got happier and happier as I went. Alas, my days of expeimentation has passed and sadly I am stuck in the same old routines. But I know that experience is key in many ways.

  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:29 PM EST
Ms CYPRAH

You're only stuck because of FEAR, Jimmy.

No one is ever to old to experiment. It shows that we are alive and living, not just existing!!

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:43 PM EST
Jimmy the Goon

Well I may not be too old, but I am definitely running out of ideas, and when whips and chains starts becoming the norm...well where do you go. LOL!

  • 2 votes
#7.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:47 PM EST
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Norman 2

But how do we answer Albert then ?

"A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new."

(You're ok there, Al, but NOT below; YOU flunked big time below so your total score is 50%. Sorry)

"The only source of knowledge is experience."

Albert Einstein

(Back to school for you, Al)

  • 2 votes
Reply#8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:43 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

"The only source of knowledge is experience."

I agree with this as we cannot really learn anything unless we experience it. But, when that experience is solidified into something unchangeable, and held up as the main criterion for progress, that's where it begins to fall apart.

  • 2 votes
#8.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:42 AM EST
Norman 2

Very true and thank you.

He also was known for a terrific sense of DRY humor and many of his quotes reflect that, so one is left thinking deeply which are tongue-in-cheek and which are not.

'Tis a puzzlement with a couple of them; great dinner party conversation!

:-)

  • 2 votes
#8.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:47 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Very true and thank you.

You're welcome! And thanks for your contribution. :o)

  • 2 votes
#8.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:50 AM EST
T. Fargo

That second quote by Einstien can be misunderstood. Experience can be defined as: A particular incident that a person has undergone, e.g. The experince with the water slide was exhilarating; or accumulation of knowledge, such as saying a man of experience. Experience can also mean being the totality of characteristics, past and present that make up a quality of a person, place or people, e.g. the American Experience.

I believe Einstien meant knowledge is only sourced by [doing something new] experience, rather than [been there, done that] experience.

The definition of stupidity is doing something the same way twice and expecting a different outcome - Albert Einstien

  • 2 votes
#8.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:47 AM EST
Jimmy the Goon

That is extremely enlightening T.Fargo.

  • 1 vote
#8.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:49 AM EST
Norman 2

Excellent thought, T. YOU would be a Lobster and Chataubriand dinner invite only.....

When your teacher/school prinicpal tells your DAD when you're 10 years old that you are a "Disruption to the class" and "Doesn't matter what he takes because he'll never amount to anything......"

one never really knows WHAT he means from his unique experiences!

Thanks

  • 2 votes
#8.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:51 AM EST
T. Fargo

@ Jimmy the Goon-Thanks.
Norman 2- Perfect choice for Friday. What time do we eat? I'll make the chateau potatoes... :-)

  • 2 votes
#8.7 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:17 AM EST
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T. Fargo

Lovely article. I am going to have some of my colleagues read this. Experience can enrich our lives if our minds are open, yet hinder growth if we do not expect knowledge to come from other sources. Situations change and thereto the outcomes. If we rely soley on experience, we will ultimately find disappointment. Learning is a process that never ceases.

  • 1 vote
Reply#9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:48 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Experience can enrich our lives if our minds are open, yet hinder growth if we do not expect knowledge to come from other sources.

Beautifully put! Thanks for the reinforcement. :o)

  • 1 vote
#9.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:43 AM EST
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northtosouth

Experience isn't the time invested in the endeavor, but the knowledge gained. One can spend a lifetime in a field and not have experience while one can gain a lifetime of experience in a field in only a year engaged in said endeavor. It's how one reacts to the challenges presented that gains experience. Not the time.

  • 1 vote
Reply#10 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:59 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

It's how one reacts to the challenges presented that gains experience. Not the time.

Great point!

  • 1 vote
#10.1 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:46 AM EST
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Norman 2

A funny final note re: Radio and TV personalities interviewing people when they themselves have NO experience.

Not too long ago the Living Legend Never-Lost-a Case Criminal Defense Attorney and Author of 16 Best Selling Books, Gerry Spence, (including the NY Times Bestseller "How To Argue and Win Every Time..."was interviewed by a very young fellow.

"Interviewer: So, Mr. Spence, you've NEVER lost a Criminal Case in over 50 years and you've had 16 Best Selling Books.....so......WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED?"

Gerry Spence, incredulously and after long pause: "What have I LEARNED?"

Will NEVER forget it; still laugh thinking about it!!

  • 1 vote
Reply#11 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:26 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Yes, it is funny! :o)

It seems he has been so busy showing how he hasn't learnt anything himself!!

  • 1 vote
#11.1 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:47 AM EST
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Big Brother Commission

Unfortunately, there are too many settings in American society where experience gets overlooked. For example, people can get into top job positions making huge salaries or enter into an Ivy League school based on connections or nepotism. This isn't right, but it is seen all the time! Someone could have worked their behind off in the same job for ten or twenty years and not get moved up a single inch while the boss's son or daughter instantly becomes CEO, CFO, COO, or chairman over the board of directors, etc. This form of corruption and abuse in human society will never change until the Second Advent of Christ!

    Reply#12 - Fri Mar 9, 2012 7:30 PM EST
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