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Equalities chief tells Christians: You're no different to Muslims who want sharia law

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Christians who argue they should be exempt from equalities legislation are no different from Muslims who want to impose sharia law in Britain, a human rights chief has declared.

Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, said religious rules should end 'at the door of the temple' and give way to the 'public law' laid down by Parliament.

He said Catholic adoption agencies should drop their opposition to accepting gay couples – even if it conflicts with their religious beliefs – because they were providing a public service.

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Ms CYPRAH

I am behind him 100% on this! And it applies to America even more!

Many Christians, especially the extremists, cannot see that they are no different from other religions trying to impose their faiths on the public.

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Reply#1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:41 AM EST
WaltUU

And it applies to America even more!

This is a very important point: Phillips is talking about what goes on in a country that does have a national church. Our nation was founded specifically to provide a place which is less beholden to specific religious perspectives than England.

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#1.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:03 PM EST
jeremy-17

Our nation was founded specifically to provide a place which is less beholden to specific religious perspectives than England.

And yet they scream and yell that it was founded on those beleifs. More and more religion is being pushed down our throats in an attempt to control the masses.

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#1.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:29 PM EST
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Mateo-660030

"no different"? he sounds more like the chief of false equivalencies. adoption agencies need to be selective, and if you're approaching a religious-based agency, it's only expected that they would be even more discerning. letting Catholic agencies decide for themselves who they think are the best prospective parents is by no means forcing all agencies to adopt Catholic standards.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:10 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

adoption agencies need to be selective, and if you're approaching a religious-based agency, it's only expected that they would be even more discerning

Agreed, but they cannot be 'more discerning' with public funds, when ALL sections of taxpayers are paying for them to be discriminatory

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#2.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:16 AM EST
katrix

If they're getting taxpayer funds, they cannot discriminate. If they want to decide for themselves to discriminate, they can't do it with taxpayer money. It would be so much simpler to just take away their tax exempt status for anything they do that isn't a direct charitible contribution, then they could discriminate all they want.

  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:42 PM EST
Ms CYPRAH

It would be so much simpler to just take away their tax exempt status for anything they do that isn't a direct charitible contribution, then they could discriminate all they want.

Exactly. But, especially in Britain, they wouldn't want that, because then they would dramatically lose their influence as well. They would lose access to members of the public who could be converts as they would only be associating with their dwindling band of supporters!

  • 1 vote
#2.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:40 PM EST
Mateo-660030

but all adoption agencies already do discriminate anyway, in the most general sense of the word. if they weren't allowed to do that, then they'd be forced to hand kids over to a lot of unfit parents.

  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:01 PM EST
WaltUU

Outside of the Internet, whenever I have used the term "discriminate" to imply something negative it has always been interpreted by every reader as meaning discrimination on unjust grounds.

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#2.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:03 PM EST
katrix

Mateo, adoption agencies are required to make sure that people are fit parents. There is no evidence that says gays don't make just as good parents as anyone else. Single people are allowed to adopt these days; wouldn't two loving, gay parents be better qualified to raise children?

Some people are good parents. Some people suck at it. What gender we screw has nothing to do with it. People of any gender who have revolving door lovers, or who openly do drugs - yep, not the best example for their kids - yet biological parents do this all the time. Two committed gays are going to be a worse influence than that?

  • 2 votes
#2.6 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:22 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Some people are good parents. Some people suck at it. What gender we screw has nothing to do with it.

Hear, hear! It really is down to the individual.

  • 2 votes
#2.7 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:45 AM EST
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Doris Jude Porter

Hay Congress and republican politician listen to a wise man: Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission we do not need a different set of laws for different religions.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102385/Equalities-chief-Trevor-Phillips-accuses-Christians-trying-impose-form-sharia-law.html#ixzz1mft7oznR

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Reply#3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:04 PM EST
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