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Are you scared of DEATH? (Poll)

Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:30 AM EST
health, death, growth, fears, scared, rebirth, life-cycle, self-fulfilling-prophecy
By Ms CYPRAH

Live Poll

Are you sacred of death?

View Results
  • 175401
    Yes, I worry lots about it.
    6%
  • 175402
    Depends on how I feel.
    16%
  • 175403
    I'm not sure.
    5%
  • 175404
    I've got used to the idea.
    18%
  • 175405
    Definitely not.
    55%

VoteTotal Votes: 124

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I don't fear death at all. When we fear death, we spend so much time worrying and fretting about it, we might as well be dead, because we rob ourself of a life, especially as we cannot do anything about it!

Death is inevitable, one essential part of the cycle of nature and that cycle is: birth, growth, death and rebirth, every day and for every aspect of our lives. Nothing can be born unless there has been death. Like the seasons. If spring did not die, we would not have summer, and if winter did not die, we would not have spring. Death is therefore a natural part of our existence. Yes, it is okay to fear how we die, as most of us fear pain, but if we keep focused on how we wish to die, we would probably die like that anyway.

Because death is inevitable, the best way to deal with it is to face it squarely, say "Bring it on when you're ready, Mr Reaper!" and make the most of TODAY, of every single day you are then given. Don't take any day for granted as it could be your last. Having faced death in your head, you can then move on to enjoy the life you will be given. But if you keep fearing it, you will keep fretting about it, you will not have a great quality of life because it will be constantly overshadowed by thoughts of death and you might even bring it on quicker through a self-fulfilling prophecy!

We ALL have to die at some point, Accept it fully and determine to then enjoy the life as much as possible, and you will find that death holds no fears for you. I am 63 years old, I absolutely adore life, I look fabulous and I am not going anywhere in a hurry, so death will have to wait a long time! But if today is my last day, I will live it to the maximum, give thanks for it and die with a smile of satisfaction and achievement.

Why on earth should I spend valuable time in life worrying about something that I cannot change, and something negative too, when i can do a lot to affect the quality of my life through other great thoughts. Why worry about death while ignoring my life and its potential?

Life is fantastic. Live it in gratitude and death will hold no fears!

 

©Elaine Sihera (Ms CYPRAH) 2012
Emotional Health and People Management Consultant
"Happiness is a state of being. We are the ones who decide whether we wish to be happy or not, by the script we use inside our heads.
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Ms CYPRAH

Let's see how you all feel!

  • 5 votes
#1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:33 AM EST
Citizen Kane-473667

I'm not afraid of it at all. I kinda look forward to it actually. Not that I'm suicidal or anything--I happen to enjoy Life too. It's just that while I'm alive, I feel so obligated to do the very best I can; i.e., to be the best parent, the best person, the best citizen, the best employeethe best everything I can be so as not to disappoint my family and friends. I'm tired of trying to keep up with best. The only way out though--for me --is to die. Call it my personal code of ethics if you will to do my personal best at everything. I get pissy with myself when I'm running late even when it isn't my fault--if that gives you any clue.

Therefore, for me at least, Death is the only escape from responsibility that comes with Life; or a much needed rest from the best!

I just hope I'm not reincarnated as a fire hydrant!!!

  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:40 AM EST
ryoushi12

Oh puhlease, EVERYBODY is in some way scared of death, especially if you're in good health, the question is how morbid are you on the subject.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:10 AM EST
kaviaq

I don't exactly FEAR death. I don't think I'll be conscious of anything after death so there is nothing to fear. I just do NOT want to die.....ever. Since I don't believe in an afterlife I am very aware that every moment is precious, and if I have to die I will go kicking and screaming. I'd certainly be interested in extending my natural lifetime. Better yet I keep hoping vampires are real and THAT might be an option....although I'm not sure how one goes about being a vegan vampire.....

  • 11 votes
#1.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:23 AM EST
samenslow

I am not afraid of Death too. It is part of the cycle of Being. When the people of Athens ordered Socrates be put to death, he told them they had no idea if they had done him a great favor or great harm. I do not know what happens. I may not go anywhere, but I will find out. Maybe I return in a month or so as a bird, stag, or cockroach. Regardless of what will happen, Death will happen.

I agree. Live this life to the fullest. Enjoy it. As the old saying goes, "Life is not a dress rehearsal".

An interesting book on the subject is Reichel-Dolmatoff's Beyond the Milkey Way: Hallucinatory Images of the Tukano Indians. Their reality is different than ours because they do see death as part of a continuum. They care little about traveling on...

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:26 AM EST
Marine24

Why fear something that has already happened over 42 years ago, (vietnam). I died back then but my body hasnt caught up yet. It is rapidly gaining on death though.

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:03 AM EST
Daniel A. Hallo

I don't remember my birth and I won't remember my death either. So no, how silly to fear death, still it's not something I look forward to.

  • 7 votes
#1.6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:02 PM EST
Andy Ritch

I do not fear death. I just want some time to make a few telephone calls first.

  • 7 votes
#1.7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST
evilgenius

Nope, Death is a really cool guy with a great sense of humor. He sucks at cards though and gets a little sulky if he's been drinking.

  • 4 votes
#1.8 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:14 PM EST
cowboygrandpa

Why fear death, when my Lord and Savior says heaven is better than earth ??

No more pain, no more sorrows, no more memories of all those who I've lost in my lifetime. Life is hard then ya live.

I love life, but the pain is catching up to me, my eyes are dimmer, my joints ache, and my body doesn't move like it did in the hell of Nam. I'm seeing my children get older, and my wife lose her health. I don't want to live long enough to see my children or grandchildren die.

Death is just being realeased to go Home for me. So no, I don't fear it I welcome it when He callls me to Him.

  • 4 votes
#1.9 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:35 PM EST
Tex-988483

I had to go with "depends on how I feel". Yeah, I'm sometimes skeered of death. It is the Great Mystery Walk with absolutely no answers allowed until we make the leap. Then it is either nothing or something. Something bad or something good. Who the heck knows.

In fact, all the great philosophical questions, Why am I here? What's the point? What is death? Where do we go when we die? Is there a God? Why does cruelty abound? Why is there always lint in my belly button? and so on are more or less unanswerable. I don't even think we have a grip on just what reality is or how our perceptions of such are related to what we think we see.

Such is life.

You know, I'm kinda hoping that once firmly in the Dirt Nap Phase we'll find out that it is all a big joke. I'm just hoping the punch line is a funny one......

"Birth and death; we all move between these two unknowns." Bryant H McGill

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:42 PM EST
FlNutmegger

Death is just being realeased to go Home for me.

As I have said in the past, with all that I have experienced in this life, I am waiting for the Lord to call me Home for I am truly tired and need to rest.

  • 5 votes
#1.11 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:59 PM EST
Ms CYPRAH

What you have shown, FIN, is that when we do feel ready for death, it has no sting at all.

  • 3 votes
#1.12 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:44 PM EST
FlNutmegger

Ms CYPRAH, it is true. From what I have experienced, and participated in, over my long life has brought me to a realization that, once you step through that door, you end one adventure to start a new one. I just hope that the next one will be a lot more peaceful for me than this one has been. I call death a doorway which may just be a bit naive since I have knocked on it more than a few times and it has never opened to me. Again, with age comes the knowledge that soon it will for I have truly lived too long and, as I said somewhere, I am tired now and need to rest, truly rest. Holy cow, is this profound or what? ;~))

  • 5 votes
#1.13 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:01 PM EST
Ms CYPRAH

That's okay, FIN, you have to say how you feel and I have no problems with that.

I have always felt that the older we get, the more we look forward to death because that's the way the body prepares us for the inevitable. Whilst, when we are younger, it is almost unthinkable, which makes death pretty tragic for younger people.

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:08 PM EST
mrsrachelm

I'm not afraid of death in and of itself. What sometimes concerns me is the process of it. Will it be in a painful manner? Will it be in my sleep and all peaceful like? That type of thing.

It's a very weird idea to know that death is a test everyone takes and no one can cheat on, lol. It's the one thing you have zero control over since there will come a day when you MUST and WILL die....whether you want to or not. There's no recourse...nothing. This physical life always feels so permanent and forever even though I know it's isn't.

  • 4 votes
#1.15 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:30 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

It's the one thing you have zero control over since there will come a day when you MUST and WILL die

So sad, but true, and the one thing in life that no amount of money can change! THAT'S the kicker!! :o)

Death has a way of levelling us all to the same denominator, no matter how we lived.

  • 2 votes
#1.16 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:40 AM EST
Zen-Hydra

Ms CYPRAH

So sad, but true, and the one thing in life that no amount of money can change!

...yet.

There will be a day in the future when death is largely preventable, but it will only be so for those wealthy enough to pay the perpetual maintenance fees.

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:37 AM EST
Andrew331978

I'm not scared of it simply because scientifically speaking, everything ends. Entropy is one of the universe's constant and I accept that. In a way, the moment we are born we start dying. For example we lose about 30,000 skin cells every minute.

With that said, while I could step off the curb tomorrow and get run over by a car, I'm also not gonna stay cooped up at home afraid of anything that could kill me.

I have a gorgeous wife, an amazing son, a cute kitty cat. I'm as happy as a pig in mud and I have devoted myself to living for my family who are my life for as long as humanly possible, treating each day as if it were the last.

That way, when I die, I can leave happy knowing I had an amazing life.

  • 4 votes
#1.18 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:28 PM EST
Ms CYPRAH

treating each day as if it were the last.

That way, when I die, I can leave happy knowing I had an amazing life.

That's a great aim Andrew - the best!

  • 4 votes
#1.19 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:58 PM EST
Reply
ERich-356044

It is not that I am scared of death, I just really love my life now. I finally am at a point where I am content and happy. (took awhile! my 20's and first part of my 30's were not so great...)

In other words, I've been dealt a fantastic hand of cards, wanna stay in the game for a lot longer. :)

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:38 AM EST
Nick46

I am not afraid. I don't want to die but it is part of the cycle. I would rather die than live with a poor quality of life. I have seen people suffer for years just existing.

I say I would rather die but when that decision is near one never knows what they will do.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:09 AM EST
Chris-382117

ERich-356044

I don't fear him as he's a companion we all walk with all of our lives. I "died" in Vietnam 45 years ago and the Corpsmen and Doctors brought me back. I've had an additional almost 45 years since then that I never counted on having. Once you've seen it, it really isn't as scary as you may think. Let's just face it, the primary cause of death is Birth; none of us is getting out of this alive! If you live long enough, everyone dies of something; who says life isn't fair?

I like living and agree with Nick about the quality of life. My wife died from a Cerebral Aneurysm 6 years ago, but it was better for her as she had a very bad case of Rheumatoid Arthritis. So, when things stop working and I start becoming a burden to others and cannot enjoy the things that I want to do, I will be quite willing to go with him to the next "adventure" as FLNutmegger so eloquently said.

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:17 AM EST
Reply
JEFFINVA

Not scared one bit. Because when you're dead you won't know you're dead.

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:57 AM EST
ryoushi12

But, how sacred do you think you will be as you are dying, if you KNOW that you are dying?

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:11 AM EST
Wheel

That is a separate question. The process of dying is likely to be painful, messy, embarrassing (you poo and pee yourself when you die you know) and may be protracted. But being dead, meh.

  • 5 votes
#3.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:16 AM EST
Reply
Augur Well

Not one bit, not for one solitary second. The word 'curiosity' sure comes to mind tho, after the singular event does occur tho. Every moment before that event is that which I have at least some modicum of control, or cause and effect, or affect, upon and to revel in or dismay over, depending on those singular cards dealt as may be, that afterwards is only the great curiosity reserved for each of us in our own way and time.

The event itself? Merely the vehicle rented for the next dance!

  • 4 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:00 AM EST
Borncorn

I'm 60. My greatest fear is that I will die at my retirement party. Isn't it ironic.........

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:01 AM EST
MDC-441879

I'm a 64 year old cancer patient and remembering how it was for my father's death (he had cancer too), no, I'm not afraid of death. It's the process that scares me. Sometimes, death can be that welcome relief to end the suffering. I also don't want my family to go through what we all did with my father. He told me several times that he "wished he could just die". I know how he felt and yet we were all powerless to do anything but pump him full of drugs to help with the pain. Thankfully, he slipped into a coma for the last two weeks of his life and passed peacefully in the night. The "passed peacefully" part is what I'm going for.

Ms CYPRAH,

You bring up a subject that I've thought of asking here on the vine myself. It will be interesting to see what everybody thinks.

Thank you......

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:03 AM EST
FlNutmegger

Sometimes, death can be that welcome relief to end the suffering.

As an old (87) multiple cancer survivor, along with combat related injuries, we do reach a stage in our lives where death is welcomed. Pain as a constant companion and reminder that things could/should be better. There are mornings when I wake and say; "Damn, I'm still here!" This is truly not what I wanted, or expected, over the years but, you play the hand that the Lord deals you, as best you can.

  • 8 votes
#6.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:24 AM EST
MDC-441879

Pain as a constant companion and reminder that things could/should be better.

Very well said and so damn true.

  • 4 votes
#6.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:35 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Thanks for sharing your story MDC, and so sorry to hear about your illness. You hang in there!!

You bring up a subject that I've thought of asking here on the vine myself.

I am glad, because I don't believe in taboo subjects. Death always stirs people in some way.

  • 5 votes
#6.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:55 AM EST
RACHEL1-933952

FlNutmegger-

My Grandmother was the same way. For five years before her death (almost 97), she just kept saying to anyone that would listen, "I didn't mean to live this long" and "I don't know why I'm still here"

So, her death was indeed a blessing for her.

And, Ms Cyprah, No, I'm not afraid. Just not ready! I just hope it's fast and as painless as possible!!

  • 4 votes
#6.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:49 PM EST
Reply
Tyler Durden-330839

Will I dream, Dr Chandra?

  • 2 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:10 AM EST
Zen-Hydra

I don't know.

  • 1 vote
#7.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:41 AM EST
Reply
Stop The Hypocrisy

Not scared at all. Because I've already been dead once (accident involving a leaky gas pipe). No pulse, no respiration, no EEG brain activity, no nothing before I was brought back. It was just like going to sleep. I hope I get such a good rest when it happens for real.

  • 5 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:13 AM EST
ShelbyCourtland

Almost, the same thing happened to me. I was in the hospital in labor and the next thing I know, I wake up and I'm attached to all of these machines, bleeping and clicking and the nurse says to me, "we lost you there for a bit, your heart stopped beating and you stopped breathing, but we brought you back." I thought she was joking until my mother later told me that they had told her what happened after I was out-of-the-woods.

I remember nothing. As you stated STH, it's just like going to sleep. I saw no tunnels, no lights, no welcoming arms, no past relatives, just nothing, like a dreamless sleep.

I don't fear being dead, I just fear how I'm going to die because so many family members have died from cancer and as you all know, that's a most painful way to go! Having an extremely low tolerance for pain, that does NOT bode well for me.

  • 4 votes
#8.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:15 PM EST
Reply
beej mcl

of death itself, no.

of the manner in which it chooses to find me, whether it is long and painful or peaceful makes all the difference.

  • 9 votes
Reply#9 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:14 AM EST
Vis Major

Right. Fear of dying is not the same as fear of being dead. I also worry about what my death will mean to the lives of my kids. Once they're out on their own it will be different.

  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:41 AM EST
Connie says

I agree, I don't fear dying as much as I fear the way that I could die....Preferably old age and not a fiery car crash.

  • 3 votes
#9.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:06 AM EST
FlNutmegger

I always said that I wanted to be killed by a jealous huband climbing through of a window. The only thing was I wanted to be climbing out not in! :>))

  • 6 votes
#9.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:10 AM EST
beej mcl

if that jealous husband was 25 years old and his wife the same, i've had that vision of my life coming to an end in that way as well.

  • 4 votes
#9.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:16 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Very strange guys you are!! ha ha

  • 3 votes
#9.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:30 AM EST
beej mcl

ms c, it may be factual that over time as men get older some parts of their bodies do not work quite as well as they used to. the saying goes that it takes all night to do what we used to do all night. well, our minds for the most part still work and our fantasies do not disappear. even through one might develop old-timers disease, the long term memories are still there.

yes i said old-timers.

  • 3 votes
#9.6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:39 AM EST
Wheel

one might develop old-timers disease, the long term memories are still there.

yes i said old-timers.

I call it some-timers disease. Sometimes I remember, sometimes I don't.

  • 6 votes
#9.7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:44 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

I call it some-timers disease. Sometimes I remember, sometimes I don't.

ha ha

  • 3 votes
#9.8 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM EST
FlNutmegger

You can tell mostly because we will get out of our chairs, go into another room, and say to ourself, "Self, what the heck did you come in here for anyway?" ;=||

  • 4 votes
#9.9 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:17 PM EST
Citizen Kane-473667

Sometimes I remember, sometimes I don't.

What were we talking about again?

*Scratching thinning grey-haired head*

  • 3 votes
#9.10 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM EST
Reply
nica1829

I believe that death just releases my Essence to begin anew in a different realm, so death does not frighten me & with acceptance of this philosophy I have begun enjoying each new day more than when I feared Heaven & Hell.

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:26 AM EST
Luther28

No, it is part of the circle of life, so to speak. Death is the only certainty in life, hopefully it does not come calling too soon, but as we have little say in it, oh well.

  • 4 votes
Reply#11 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:39 AM EST
Nick46

As an old (87) multiple cancer survivor, along with combat related injuries, we do reach a stage in our lives where death is welcomed. Pain as a constant companion and reminder that things could/should be better

My father could have said those words. Although he said that he was ready for death he chose risky treatment rather than imminent death. He lived another year of existence.

  • 2 votes
Reply#12 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:47 AM EST
FlNutmegger

he chose risky treatment rather than imminent death. He lived another year of existence.

Good for him, truly. I do not advocate giving up in the fight for life for I have been to the door too many times in my long life and still refuse to go through it. I understand your Dad's decisions, too, for I am in recovery right now from extensive surgery following both bladder cancer and colon cancer which will garner me, at best, another year. I'll also bet the farm that your Dad also refused to just sit in the corner and wait, right? A good idea to live by is: If it ain't fun, don't do it, and if it doesn't move, eat it! ;~)) Never lose your sense of humor, in particular, the ability to laugh at yourself.

  • 4 votes
#12.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:14 AM EST
Wheel

and if it doesn't move, eat it!

In the Navy we used to say:

"If it moves, salute it. If it doesn't move, paint it."

  • 4 votes
#12.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:17 AM EST
Nick46

I'll also bet the farm that your Dad also refused to just sit in the corner and wait, right?

Well he didn't want to. But the 3 day a week treatments kept him weak and unable to do much else. But at least he did something he loved all his life. He was an avid reader.

  • 1 vote
#12.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:37 AM EST
FlNutmegger

But the 3 day a week treatments kept him weak and unable to do much else.

I know the feelings about that, too. My first bout with cancer was throat cancer in 1985 where they did 3 separate surgeries and took my Thyroid and a bunch of other stuff and I did the Chemo, Radiation thing. The Chemo was the most horrible experience I have ever had before or since, including being shot twice during the war, and so I politely refused it again this past year for these two onsets. At my age it is the quality of my remaining life that has become paramount not the quantity of it. The deep radiation thing where they burned me so badly that they weren't sure I would ever speak again turned me off from that, too and forced me into retirement. The doctors who treat us are young and vigorous and recommend aggressive treatments when in fact if they were our age they would see our needs for comfort instead of their ego need to conquer it. My only plea now is do not let me suffer any longer. I watched my Dad die, of this, in the most horrendous agony any one could suffer and his doctor would not give him any more medications to ease the pain for, in his words, he was afraid that my Dad would become addicted. The man was dieing for gosh sakes and in fact did die within hours of that stupid self serving statement. What made it worse was that he and my Dad were golfing buddies and still he let him suffer.

  • 6 votes
#12.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST
mrsrachelm

That's awful, FIN.

While my mother was on hospice care, the general rule was if the patient is terminally ill, addiction isn't an issue any longer while their comfort is paramount. I'm so sorry your dad had to go through that as it was so unnecessary.

  • 4 votes
#12.5 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:40 AM EST
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Uthaclena

As I grow older I am less afraid of death and more concerned about the process of dying. Falling asleep and not waking would be okay; being filled with tubes and medical abuse, not so much.

The occasional twinges of fear about death are all due to the superstitions that being raised a Catholic programmed into me, "judgement" for not doing every thing right and insufficient groveling before the Invisible Deity not to consign me to the Eternal Torturers. Rationalism tells me that's bunk; but indoctrination leaves Pavlovian emotional responses.

  • 1 vote
Reply#13 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:55 AM EST
Wheel

I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.”
― Mark Twain

I agree.

  • 7 votes
Reply#14 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:00 AM EST
hugh b

like learning to walk, it is one more stage in my existence

having experienced love, deep true love, I cannot help but believe that given a choice between the being a star in the sky or being in love and being loved, I would choose love everytime

life is all about perspective, death will give me a new one...

  • 3 votes
Reply#15 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:08 AM EST
UNA_Lion

Have been targeted by individuals seeking my violent end many times in Iraq. All that really frightened me was the prospect of my wife being left without me, or being injured in such a way that I could no longer care for myself but was still aware. As for death itself, it's just a transition to true eternity, which by comparison this life is a tiny broom closet within a gigantic palace.

  • 4 votes
Reply#16 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:13 AM EST
FlNutmegger

UNA_Lion, I know first hand about the being the target of, as well as, the recipient of enemy fire. My military career spanned my teen years to twenty so no wife or family which I'm not at all sure I would know how to handle under combat conditions. My greatest problems occurred after combat related injuries and the battle back then to get the VA to help me since mostly we were in uncharted waters concerning those and mistakes, IMO, were made by them that do not occur today, thankfully. Good for you and thank you for your service.

  • 4 votes
#16.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:19 AM EST
UNA_Lion

You too, FlNutmegger!

  • 3 votes
#16.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:20 AM EST
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Texasguy01

In the casino of life I have placed all of my bets on Jesus so in him I live and in him I die. Whatever my eternity I have tried to please Jesus so I am always in his hands. I would not want it any other way. Of course all of you have your own choice but in my Church there are many nurses and they will tell you it is easy to see the Christians when death is near for a patient. The Christians go in peace and comfort while the nonbelievers have a markedly different experience from their personal observations.

  • 4 votes
Reply#17 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:20 AM EST
WTF-Really

I call BS on your comment about non-believers not going in peace

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#17.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:54 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

The Christians go in peace and comfort while the nonbelievers have a markedly different experience from their personal observations

And how do you know that, TexasGuy? Experienced it, have you? Speaking for God too? You dictate what happens to them, do you? Some people do talk nonsense sometimes when they wish to act superior. :o(

Imposing what you believe on others won't make it any more real.

  • 6 votes
#17.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:59 AM EST
Vis Major

Pascal's wager with a little twist. Hindus die screaming I guess.

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#17.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:02 AM EST
Texasguy01

In reply to both of you I am saying these are the words of nurses in my Church and there are many. Not working in that profession watching people die every day I can only take their word but I know them well. Perhaps you can ask a few around you if you doubt my words.

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#17.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:03 AM EST
WTF-Really

my mother was a nurse and I asked her about this, she calls BS on your little statement and she's a Christian herself. I've also personally held an Atheist friend of mine as he died.

  • 4 votes
#17.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:11 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

my mother was a nurse and I asked her about this, she calls BS on your little statement and she's a Christian herself.

Exactly WTF! I was a nurse too, AND was a staunch Christian at the time, and never heard such nonsense.

I guess some people are prepared to believe what they wish to believe!

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#17.6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:32 AM EST
beej mcl

if you notice, texasguy hedged the question and used this thread to preach his church beliefs again.

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#17.7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:42 AM EST
WTF-Really

Thanks Ms CYPRAH she loved the job and I spent many an afternoon sitting in the waiting room doing my homework while she ran about and did her work.

I agree and it's been shown that if someone convinces themselves of something hard enough they will start to see evidence of something that isn't there

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#17.8 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:14 PM EST
Zen-Hydra

WTF-Really

I agree and it's been shown that if someone convinces themselves of something hard enough they will start to see evidence of something that isn't there

The term for this is Confirmation bias, and it is psychologically similar to the Observer-expectancy effect.

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#17.9 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:50 AM EST
WTF-Really

I didn't know it actually had a term thanks for the info Zen-Hydra

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#17.10 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:17 PM EST
Zen-Hydra

Cheers, mate.

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#17.11 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:20 PM EST
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sunshine girl-685508

Been close to death twice in my life. First time was a heart-attack caused by a thrombosis in the lung brought on from usng the pill. In that exact moment I was not panicked at all but calm and acquiescing. I have personal and deeply subjective reasons for believing in an afterlife, reasons that I would not use to convince anyone else. But I truly believe there is something of our energy that lives on and it has some form of consciousness.

Fortunately, what is also of great comfort is accepting that if any such being as a God exists, it is far too Almighty to be pre-occupied with my piddling little existence and hold an everlasting grudge against me for any reason because I could never harm such a Deity. The only thing it could want for me is more enlightenment if it is indeed a benevolent Being that delights in Its creation.

It's the people who have insecure, jealous, less-than Almighty Deities who have vendettas against humans that I think require the most reassurance at the moment of death.

  • 5 votes
Reply#18 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:30 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Fortunately, what is also of great comfort is accepting that if any such being as a God exists, it is far too Almighty to be pre-occupied with my piddling little existence and hold an everlasting grudge against me for any reason because I could never harm such a Deity.

Great comment, sunshine-girl!

  • 2 votes
#18.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:01 AM EST
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Josh Ames

Not now, but I'm still young. Who knows how I'll feel when I'm older. Personally I don't see why people find it so hard to believe that there is no God. Do you remember anything from before you were born? I believe the same thing happens after you die. It's too obvious for people to admit.

  • 3 votes
Reply#19 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:34 AM EST
fronco

I wished i was born in 1900 life was so much better, the food, the people, the homes, the schools and better yet no tv or pc and most of all freedom and respect for others. in those days you never have to lock your doors ether. so am afraid of dying, not really its better then suffering in this mean cruel world.

  • 2 votes
Reply#20 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:37 AM EST
samenslow

In islam there are many stories about the Mulla Nashurdin. Once one of his students asked him as he blew out a candle, " Where did the fire go?"

The Mulla asnwered, "Tell me from where it came, and I will tell you where it went."

  • 3 votes
#20.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:41 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

I wished i was born in 1900 life was so much better,

For whom, exactly? Tell that to the people in the workhouses, the abused children, the oppressed women, starving poor, and those who had no money!!

  • 1 vote
#20.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:03 AM EST
fronco

you drink a glass of milk these day i taste like chemicals also water, meats, vegetables, anything you eat, as far is freedom, in those days you can carry a gun to defend yourself these days the law lets criminals do what ever they wan't. as far as abusing children and starving people, what do you think the tea party republicans are going to do if Obama lost the election. this is why i wished i was born in 1900. it was a way better life then these republicans are going to do to the poor if they win the white house. think about it cyprah. because these republicans couldn't care less if your poor.

    #20.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:51 AM EST
    Ms CYPRAH

    Fronco, I am still not convinced perhaps because I believe the current age is always the best one, no matter what the Republicans might do. It's defeatist to talk that way.

    • 3 votes
    #20.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:15 PM EST
    Josh Ames

    If you think life was so much better in 1900, I think you'd be in for a rude awakening if you suddenly found yourself there.

    • 2 votes
    #20.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:05 PM EST
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