100 Things You Can Say To Irritate A Republican

101. The Earth is round.

Handy list. Voted up.

#1:36. Women control their own bodies.

I loved all of the numbers published but thought that since I am a woman, and repugs can't get this thought their thick noggins, I would select this one number to bring attention to this fact.

After all, we are now in the 21st Century, you would think that everyone would know and respect this fact. But repugs continue to try to control our bodies - and our business!

I stil can not understand why any WOMAN-with any sense at all- would vote repug!

102. Obama 2012.

Well, the jury is still out on evolution, you know
George Bushism

103. Obama ( nothing else, just his name )

Woohoo! Thank you for a great way to start the New Year, Ms. Cyprah! I just sent that to my friends since this is an election year and it's onlly going to get worse before November...

And absolutely Tom-VermillionOhio! OBAMA 2012!!!

37. Abortion is a relevant medical procedure, just ask Rick Santorum.

LMAO. I use that one all the time. If abortion is good enough for the Catholic, republican Rick Santorum and his wife to have, it's good enough for all of us.

104.The Truth

105. Proof?

102. Obama 2012.

Every one knows it will happen. We republicans/independents are just in denial.

2. Jesus healed the sick and helped the poor, for free.

So do we.

Joseph McCarthy was an un-American, witch hunting sissy

Yes he was and he did have some good points but it was mostly a witch hunt.

Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were traitors.

They were loyal to their state like most people it was state first then country this changed after the civil war.

The South lost the Civil War, get over it.

I have to keep telling my democrat relatives this.

The Founding Fathers were liberals.

They were also traitors.

Sarah Palin is an ugly cow(said to conservative males).

said by shallow people. She is good looking but most woman are.

The Earth is round

This is just being silly.

Reagan raised taxes eleven times as President.

Most presidents do they lower one tax and raise another.

12. Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency.

Which is a good thing but it can go too far.

18. Paying taxes is patriotic.

So be patriotic and pay 90% of your income for taxes.

21. The Presidents’ full name is Barack Hussein Obama and he was born in the United States of America.

Most Republicans know this.

Ms C- that list is sheer AWESOMENESS!!! :)

23. President Obama saved the American auto industry, while Republicans wanted to destroy it.

Republicans thought it should go bankruped to help it recocer. Obama did not. So Obama lost they declared bankruptcy and they are saved.

24. Hate is not a Christian virtue.

Every one knows this.

27. Tea parties are for little girls.

lets see OWS dont bath and smell. they what to rape all the women in the tents. makes about as much since.

28. Public schools educate all children; private schools are for indoctrinating children.

Save Public schools dont do education very well. We spend more money on education then most countrys and have the worst results.

The Founding Fathers were liberals.

They were also traitors.

But, not to the United States of America? Oh, I am guessing you missed that point, Auto?

Oh Ms Cyprah..you disappoint me with this very biased Republican-hate article. I always thought you were more of the fair and balanced type.

After all if you replaced the word Republican with any word for a person's ethnic make up it would cause such an up-roar it could be heard two counties over. The 100 things you listed would be just a biased and untrue for the whole group, to paint all members of that group with the same tar and feathers of negative percerption.

Examples:

Federal Reserve Act: Information from Answers.com

#34: The Federal Reserve was a Republican idea.

Fact is: the Democratic Party won control of the White House and both chambers ... Also created as part of the Federal Reserve System was a 12 member Federal Advisory ...

www.answers.com/topic/federal-reserve-act

#38: Please use spell-check.

Where is proof this is a Republican thing? It doesn't take much effort find others who make on line typos they don't catch. I have seen quite a few Libs and Democrats with veracious appetites for attacking those iwth a different political view.

Auto, Disregarding your obvious grammatical and spelling mistakes, we may spend more than a lot of countries per student but it is not the reason we are falling behind. Our culture does not reward education like it should. Our society does not value smart people or educated people. Look no farther than the Presidental hopefuls and theri speeches to know how little they value education. I have heard and seen almost every one of the candidates spew forth hatred or demeaning comments about the "educated" elite.

Another reason we don't do as well educating our young people is we do not allow the schools to teach to the pupil. We force a curiculim on them that is geared towards achieving a good score on a standardized testing system rather than actually using their creative and reasoning skills to solve problems.

We also have a huge disconnect in what we say we want our schools to do and what we are willing to sacrifice to get it done. How many parents senf d their children to school ready to learn? Would it suprise you to know that a large percentage of a teacher's time is spent teaching manners and other things that should be learned in the home?

We also spend a lot more money on buildings and new textbooks than most other countries. There is very little reason that a new edition of a textbook needs to be used every couple of years, other than history and civics of course.

#2... my favorite...

Jesus healed the sick... for free. :)

LOVE!!!

And the KKK was a part of the democratic party :)

Notice it wasn't a conservative writing an article about irritating a Democrat. Look in the mirror.

Ms CYPRAH, OOPS, you did it again! Great list. I needed a good laugh to start off the new year. May we all come up with MORE "Things you can say to irritate a Republican". They deserve it after the way they have acted since President Obama was elected.

Happy New Year!

101. A man which has African-American blood is OUR leader,AND he practices Christianity better Than Thou Doest!!!

And the KKK was a part of the democratic party :)

And the Democratic Party was taken over by the conservative in the South then… the KKK all vote Republicans now..

As Liberal we understand that man is not a devine creation of Gods but another, more evolved animal, and our behaviors are innate to us like all animal behaviors are, "Your Left and Right" designations to explain human political behavior is wrong…mankind can be analyzed and better understood, beyond the uncertianty of politics..

Conservative behavior is an obsolete survival trait that may of had some benefit to small tribes of mankind competing for mates and territory... The world is far to small to let this continue… and to control it, so we don't destroy ourselves, it must be understood…

There is no such thing as FAR-LEFT!

#1. Jesus Christ said to Love your neighbor as you love yourself, not take all you can from your neighbor because you love yourself !!!!

#1.A Jesus Christ continually warned the Pharisees that their religious acts could not save them. They didn't listen to Him then and you are still not listening today !!!

#1.B The Lord God said to not Take His Name in Vain. That means to not use His Name for your personal financial gain, when all you do is cause His Name shame with your greed. Nor to use His Name to make your political party seem as if God is backing it !!! Woe unto you hypocrites and Pharisees mighty is His Hand and weak are you against it !!!

Just thought that they might need a reminder who is really in charge !!!! ;~)) ;~))

Good article Ms CYPRAH. Would that they could look at it and learn.

#2... my favorite...

Jesus healed the sick... for free. :)

LOVE!!!

Do you honestly think that medicine is free? Do you think that doctors should work for free? Do you think that surgeries, procedures, etc., are free?

If Jesus truly lived he supposedly healed the sick he did it by way of miracles and not by expecting people to fork over their time, knowledge and services for free.

Newsvine is overwhelmingly liberal Democrats ranting against anything remotely right-wing. It's very entertaining. That's why I love newsvine. I often make statements just to get a rise out of my liberal newsvine friends. It would be awfully boring if you all agreed with me.

Happy New Year to ALL newsviners!

Nothing is "free", somebody somewhere is working to make a product or provide a service and there are too many people who think that it's done with no charge. There is no such thing as free.

Why do people think they are entitled to someone else's services or products or the money that has been made from those things?

why are they STILL practising hate and acting like idiots about the man's birthplace? Would they still be at it four years later if the President had been white?

That is because they are idiots you have them every where.

101. A man which has African-American blood is OUR leader,AND he practices Christianity better Than Thou Doest!!!

His descent has nothing to do with any thing he ma be a better Christian or not That matters to only one person and that is Jesus who is the judge.

But, not to the United States of America? Oh, I am guessing you missed that point, Auto?

Looks like you don't know history. The states were divided by loyalty to the state and to the crown. that is why we are called United states because people were more loyal to the state than to the Government. You also forget that many people want to fight the war just to gain representation and not for Independence. Also many Americans believed that they were British citizens and they were .

1.A Jesus Christ continually warned the Pharisees that their religious acts could not save them. They didn't listen to Him then and you are still not listening today !!!

That is why Jesus is the judge he knows what is in mens heart.

1.A Jesus Christ continually warned the Pharisees that their religious acts could not save them. They didn't listen to Him then and you are still not listening today !!!

I find it interesting that you lumped me into the pharisees. How do you know I would be one of them?Sounds like some one is want to be hurt full and hate full.

Just thought that they might need a reminder who is really in charge !!!! ;~)) ;~))

You need to let your hate and assumptions go just thought you might need a reminder.

"99. Republicans think rape isn’t a crime, but miscarriages are."

Hey, if you don't believe in abortion - Don't have one....

Clipped as useful information... smile :-)

Auto 101:

#1.32

1.A Jesus Christ continually warned the Pharisees that their religious acts could not save them. They didn't listen to Him then and you are still not listening today !!!

That is why Jesus is the judge he knows what is in mens heart.

1.A Jesus Christ continually warned the Pharisees that their religious acts could not save them. They didn't listen to Him then and you are still not listening today !!!

I find it interesting that you lumped me into the pharisees. How do you know I would be one of them?Sounds like some one is want to be hurt full and hate full.

Just thought that they might need a reminder who is really in charge !!!! ;~)) ;~))

You need to let your hate and assumptions go just thought you might need a reminder.

Hahahahaaaaa !!!! Hmmm where in my statement did I direct that at you personally ?? Now if The Holy Spirit convicted your heart and it spoke to you personally, doesn't that speak more of your overwhelming guilt, than to my directing the statement to greedy GOP'ers in general ??

Don't blame me because the truth bothers ya. :~)) :~)) I hope ya don't quench The Holy Spirit there Auto ... :~)) :~))

Have a Happy New Year.

If Jesus truly lived he supposedly healed the sick he did it by way of miracles and not by expecting people to fork over their time, knowledge and services for free.

However God did kill some early Christians that kept some of their own money so God did kill people that only wanted a little bit.

Do you honestly think that medicine is free? Do you think that doctors should work for free? Do you think that surgeries, procedures, etc., are free?

It is what Christ wants however he also knows we are not ready to live this way so it will happen during the millennium. It would be nice if we all could work to the better good of man kind.

#38: Please use spell-check.

I actually got an A in English and graduated in California with a 3.5 GPA and I also had a third grade reading and spelling level. I have since taught myself how to read using the bible and other books. Grammar and spelling is much more difficult after all this is the worlds only class five language. I do use spell check however Homonyms are a challenge when writing and so are words that look the same. I read by connecting the meaning of the sentence together if I don't know the word and don't have a dictionary.

Ms CYPRAH- My question is: If that is the case, why are they STILL practising hate and acting like idiots about the man's birthplace? Would they still be at it four years later if the President had been white?

Well, I can guarantee you that if it was a Republican with the very same circumstances, the left would NEVER stop. It's so obvious that it's funny!

Sammy: #1.29

I don't think doctors or anyone else should work for free. Their labors are worth being able to sustain themselves and to have some good things in life.

Do you really think manual laborers should just be placed in a pool of people who are seen as expendable labor and therefore not as valuable as doctors ?? If so, let the doctors and businessmen do all the manual labor as they try to do their other work !!

See just how little actually gets done. People should help others if we want this world to be a better place. The truth of the matter is, if the financial empires crumble. People will still ned food, shelter, water and all the necessities of life and money will be low on the priority list. Being able to grow fod, build shelters, know how to protect people and live off the land will be much more important at that time.

Money is something the foolish worship.

you are still not listening today !!!

When you use the word YOU what did you mean? You were posting for every one that is Conservative and has any leanings to the GOP you you were directing to to me.

Don't blame me because the truth bothers ya.

The truth bothers every one. What you posted does not bother me.

doesn't that speak more of your overwhelming guilt

We are all guilty we all fall short if Gods commandments in all aspects. so Am I guilty of not being perfect yes I am Are you Perfect?

I hope ya don't quench The Holy Spirit there Auto ...

That is my hope for all mankind.

Do you people think that Democrats have all the answers? you are wrong and neither do the republicans. this two party system is starting to rip the country apart because it only caters to the extreme of the party. when they go for the general election they try to co center.

Money is something the foolish worship.

Your right and because of this we can use it to do some good.

Newsvine is overwhelmingly liberal

The world is too.

photoguy69-

...we may spend more than a lot of countries per student but it is not the reason we are falling behind.

True, but the real reason is one that the left can never admit to: The change is can be largely attributed to the demographic shift that has occurred since the Immigration and Nationalization Act of 1965. This changed the immigration patterns from mostly Western European to mostly from the third world. This coupled with liberal welfare programs also caused significant population increases of the black and Hispanic populations in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

While it is standard practice to blame the gap in scholastic achievement between whites and non-whites on lack of funding for schools, poor socio-economic status of parents, poor nutrition, or even culturally related, but despite all efforts that have been made to date, the scholastic gap remains.

(Read the article by Pedro A. Noguera and Antwi Akom ) http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/pnaa.html

Consider the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_Differences_in_Intelligence_(book)

Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis is a 2006 book by controversial race and intelligence writer Richard Lynn reviewing the worldwide literature on IQ testing and arguing for in part genetic racial differences and with a discussion on the causes and consequences.

Race Mean I.Q Mean brain size (cc)

East-asians (China, Taïwan, Japan, Korea)
105 1416

Europeans
100 1369

South-est asians
90 1332

Pacific Islanders
85 1317

South Asians and North africans
84 1293

Africans
67 1282

Australian aborigines
62 1225

Note: Broadly speaking, Lynn estimates that about half of the IQ deficit of third world races can be explained by inadequate nutrition, while the other half is racially genetic. For example Lynn argues that while Africans living in Africa average IQ 67, African Americans living in the Southern United States (where European admixture is very low) average IQ 80. Lynn believes the latter figure represents their genotypic intelligence, while the IQs in Africa are stunted by malnutrition.

In other words, our education system is producing inferior results because a larger portion of students in those schools simply don't have the capability to compete scholastically on the world stage like we once did due to the demographic shift that has occurred, and is still occurring in this country.

Obviously such a point-black analysis is not encountered in our tender-footed leftist dominated media or education system and will therefore be condemned as a "bigoted" and "racist" position, but to do so is simply ignoring the facts. As long as we pursue solutions to fictitious problems, we will only waste our national time, money, and continue a corrupt political system of Affirmative Action to deny more qualified white students college entrance in favor of black or latino students, who will statistically not help us to compete on the world stage.

The world is too

Even if that is true, the world can't vote in our elections.

PRINCETON, NJ -- Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.

==www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

Do you really think manual laborers should just be placed in a pool of people who are seen as expendable labor and therefore not as valuable as doctors ?? If so, let the doctors and businessmen do all the manual labor as they try to do their other work !!

I don't think that one is better then the other but neither do I think that they should be on the same level financially. When a laborer goes through anywhere from 8 - 10 years and up in education, knowledge, experience and the finances payed out in paying for that education then they will have the right to get paid close to what a doctor might make.

Daniel A... 1.26 Your post was music to my ears. Exactly! If we refuse to see we are an evolved animal, we throw out any hope of understanding our behavior. People do not realize just how much of our behavior is linked to our genes and the evolutionary past. We have an enormous capacity to change our behavior but the root of the behavior in our past remains the same. The Republicans are exhibiting a primitive behavioral pattern. I think it is genetics. The genes have remained in our population. However, those behaviors are no longer ones that will serve mankind's survival. The reality is by now we should have realized there is no need for war, there is no need for poverty, there is not need for prejudice, there is no need for religion. Too much the primitive behavioral pattern exhibited by the Republicans and Islamic extremists pulls mankind backwards. It will take him to extinction unless we stop it.

Nothing is "free", somebody somewhere is working to make a product or provide a service and there are too many people who think that it's done with no charge. There is no such thing as free.

True, but I would prefer my tax money for Americans with health care issues than be wasted on the defense industry bombing Iraq and Afghanistan.

Great list!

Voted up.

True, but I would prefer my tax money for Americans with health care issues than be wasted on the defense industry bombing Iraq and Afghanistan

Oh I would love to see a true socialist health care in our country where everyone can get he healthcare they need and everyone pays into it also, but I just don't see that happening because people like to make their money and they ain't willing to give that up. I would love us to start keeping our money here and help our own people instead of having so much (billions to Pakistan) go to other countries for aid but I don't see that happening either.

28. Anyone who believes that there are no public school systems and institutes of higher learning (that's college for the slow pokes) indoctrinating children and young adults into the liberal viewpoint is kidding themselves. I personally want children and especially young adults to receive education in BOTH liberal and conservative politics, something they are highly unlikely to receive from any public (and in fairness, private) school, community college or university.

Much more troubling to me are teacher's unions which have for far too long preserved jobs for extremist and incompetent educators. I strongly support public education and in no way support efforts to end it, but our school systems have to have the ability to weed out unfit teachers, especially those who have a long record of failure in educating our children!! Until teacher's unions quit running interference in those vital efforts, my support for them will be lukewarm at best.

True, but the real reason is one that the left can never admit to:

Yes, the real reason, the slow and insidious undermining of our Educational system by the Right-Wing. Demonizing critical thinking and the value we once had for getting a well rounded liberal education.

"The Gothic idea that we were to look backwards instead of forwards for the improvement of the human mind, and to recur to the annals of our ancestors for what is most perfect in government, in religion and in learning, is worthy of those bigots in religion and government by whom it has been recommended, and whose purposes it would answer. But it is not an idea which this country will endure." --Thomas Jefferson to Joseph Priestley, 1800."

PFFFFFFFFFFT!, what a pile, I won't give this author of this gem the satisfaction attaining his only purpose: offending Republicans. A handful of things he wrote may be true, but the rest of his list is stupid mutterings intentionally contrived to create a melee.

I won't respond with more of the same by insulting Democrats and ergo, give credence to this guy's own bad manners. Too bad that no one seems to be able to discuss the issues in a civil manner anymore, but instead prefer to throw sound bite grenades, many of which are untrue, over issues that are far too complex for sound bites...

tom vermillion i agree--obama 2012 is the best..republicans cant think straight when that is mentioned..but throw barrack in there and they are about to stroke out

tom vermillion i agree--obama 2012 is the best..republicans cant think straight when that is mentioned..but throw barrack in there and they are about to stroke out

“Don't belittle situations that you can't control. Don't be fooled by anybody who complements you.” ~ Author unknown

had a great new years did you? wt???????????

A handful of things he wrote may be true,

That's the funniest part! Of course, I'd say that someone had pretty big hands to hold all of the things that aretrue...

That's the funniest part! Of course, I'd say that someone had pretty big hands to hold all of the things that aretrue...

Yes, I'm certain that would be the case in your worldview.

photoguy69

Auto, Disregarding your obvious grammatical and spelling mistakes, we may spend more than a lot of countries per student but it is not the reason we are falling behind. Our culture does not reward education like it should. Our society does not value smart people or educated people. Look no farther than the Presidental hopefuls and theri speeches to know how little they value education. I have heard and seen almost every one of the candidates spew forth hatred or demeaning comments about the "educated" elite.

Another reason we don't do as well educating our young people is we do not allow the schools to teach to the pupil. We force a curiculim on them that is geared towards achieving a good score on a standardized testing system rather than actually using their creative and reasoning skills to solve problems.

We also have a huge disconnect in what we say we want our schools to do and what we are willing to sacrifice to get it done. How many parents senf d their children to school ready to learn? Would it suprise you to know that a large percentage of a teacher's time is spent teaching manners and other things that should be learned in the home?

We also spend a lot more money on buildings and new textbooks than most other countries. There is very little reason that a new edition of a textbook needs to be used every couple of years, other than history and civics of course.

There is a saying about glass houses or something.

That list of facts is concerning life long republicans, democrats and Americans. Imposing on state rights, they clearly have only few agendas in their power grab. Supporting the one percent and making their state oppressive instead of a united nation. Years 2010 and 2011 woke up so many citizens and states, No wonder their citizen donations are down except for corporation super-PAC's funds.

Speak Teabag. I got the original source from McSpocky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqQRflUWd4

johny - That was hilarious.

Thanks to you and McSpocky.

I loved all of the numbers published but thought that since I am a woman, and repugs can't get this thought their thick noggins, I would select this one number to bring attention to this fact.

But ....

Maybe because some woman do not believe that they have the right to KILL another living being just because it happens to be inside their body...

I know its a strange concept but some woman really think that the life inside them is not within their right to KILL!

What about THEM ? The women that do not believe as you do?

What about THEM ? The women that do not believe as you do?

If they don't believe in a woman's right to control her body, they can allow someone else to control it.

#1.60

No one is forcing THEM to have an abortion. The law means women have options. It's like having the right to bear arms, but you don't go out and gun down people.

39. Please use facts when posting.

Sammy:

I never said their wages should be equal, that of a doctor and a laborer. I said they both have equal value as a person and both deserve to have the basics of life. The doctor most certainly has spent time and money to become a doctor. How many could have become doctors but ended laborers because they did not have the money and could not spend the time because of it ??

Medical care based on profit is legalised murder to me. The insurance comnpanies put profit before peoples lives. The doctors are caught in the middle, they have to0 pay for all the equipment, training, insurance, and education needed to practice medicine. Take the profit from sickness and death and turn it into a continuing reinvestment of funds into the medical system.

Good list, voted up.

My only question is, why would someone want to lower themselves to that level in the first place? if you know what I mean.

Let's see, what works to irritate my older brother? Let's start with "good morning." We are on the phone occasionally, since we live in different states now. I keep trying to be pleasant and avoid political conversations. Everytime I say "good morning" to start a conversation, I know he is going to somehow lead into one of his anti Obama rants in less that 5 minutes.

So I really don't have to say anything special to irritate him. His underlying constant state of mind is irritation. I don't have to resort to such things as calling his favorite political pundit "Jabba the Rush, the Banana Slug from outer space."

Great one mountainmike-1199289/you said it all when you said that they always run around in a state of obnoxious irritation. So badly that you can even fell that anger through the phone. It's terribly sad that someone can be that miserable. Maria

Cannonballer, the egg is on my face. I don't type well and I had corrected the spelling and typos but, for some reason, it was not saved to the post. I will do better in the future.

Machine, that is possibly the most offensive post I have ever read. It could have come right out of a KKK propaganda piece.

machinehead's argument pretty much follows the same chain of logic as concluding that milk is a gateway drug. Classic example of both Red Herring and Questionable Cause fallacies.

Ms C. #1.20

In regards to this seed, I remain disappointed to find you would hold such a one size fits all view of a whole group of people. I work hard to "judge" each person on their own merits and not to label one group of people as being one way or another. Sometimes that is not easy to do. I am after all merely a human thus prone to moments of greatness and moments of abject failure in my efforts.

I have read several of your other posts and while I did not always agree with your view you were over all reasonable in your comments. Your postings often give me alternative points of views to ponder. I do not expect to be buddy buddy BFF with everyone on line or in person. I do not expect you to agree with me on every thing either. Life would be so boring if we all agreed on everything.

Say Newsvine is run by Libs. then go to Faux Made Up Not News site. Oh they do not have one the truth would kill them.

CORRECTION

Ms. C at post #102.20

What a sad little list... Aye-yi-yi!

No wonder democrats see anyone with a different view as an extremist...

Number 1 should be:

Put up an article/seed on 100 things to say that will irritate a republican.

What a sad little list... Aye-yi-yi!

Yes it is. A sad little list that gets conservatives so hot and bothered. Real nonsense that sends them over an "end of the world" cliff. It real is said that they are so emotional over discourse.

About education...

I don't feel that either party has done a great job on this. Its not private versus public -- we have tried both. There are other factors.

Neither party seems that willing to try anything new. Rupublicans don't seem to want to try all year round school. Democrats want students to take a bunch of classes that they don't need and think that they can legislate student learning. Money goes to the wrong places.

The problem with education is it is governed by the state or local goverment. They get the funds though Grants, but arent held accountible for using the money for what it is intended for.

They allow the building to go to @!$%#, then have to use the money to fix them.

Private schools I think do operate better but they are way too expensive for most.

Not sure what the solution is.

I think the issue here is that most Americans are very strong backers of education in theory, but when the true price of world-class education eats into their ability to afford HDTVs and vacation trips, their support falters. People talk about efficiency and such but then typically just choke off school budgets and wonder why that ends up sending the best and brightest teachers into the private sector, devaluing the education itself. This delusion runs deep.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816.

MJL-3

Not sure what the solution is.

Keep conservtives out of the government and school boards, they have hated Public Education since it’s conception.

Why would anyone allow a person to manage an agency when they hate it? Why are we surprised when it is undermined and perverted.

"We are now trusting to those who are against us in position and principle, to fashion to their own form the minds and affections of our youth... This canker is eating on the vitals of our existence, and if not arrested at once, will be beyond remedy." --Thomas Jefferson to James Breckinridge, 1821.

Keep conservtives out of the government and school boards, they have hated Public Education since it’s conception.

AMEN!!!!!!!

But as in a former post mentioned we throw more money at education per student than all the other nations combined. So money is not the answer.

Some things I don't like...

Kids forget a good bit of what they learned during the summer. Wealthy kids do better because parents can afford to have them tutored during the summer. The greatest leaps for kids comes from impoverished students who play catch up when they return to school in the fall.

Kids go to school for too many years. I think they would be more motivated if they didn't see a never ending sea of eduction through four years of college. They should start earlier and end earlier. Some school seems very repititive and could be combined--especially if kids were going to school year round.

There are way too many GRE's for college students. An engineering student should not need two years of GRE's. If they want to learn more it should not be legislated; it should be their choice. This is one place that Democrats really impede on freedom; they always want to dictate to us what we should learn.

Oh yeah and we tried private school. They were worse than the public. The school did not have funding to keep teachers current with training.

Like I said earlier neither party is the party of Education.

Republicans do seem to be down on public education right now. Republicans and conservatives as far as I can tell parted ways about 12 years ago. Public education served a lot of conservatives very well that ended up evening the playing field a lot through the GI Bill and other government programs. Without public education a lot republicans would have been without college degrees. Before the GI Bill the only people that could afford a college education were those who came from families that could afford which perpetuates the "so-called" class warfare that the republicans keep talking about.

I don't think our education systems is completely broken either; it just needs some 21st century thinking.

Money is not the answer.

Stop trying to teach our children the conservative way, which is dictating to them what to think, and return to the basics of teaching them how to think.

Free thinking populations scare the hell out of the Right.

"An enlightened [i.e. educated] people, and an energetic public opinion... will control and enchain the aristocratic [conservtive] spirit of the government." --Thomas Jefferson to Chevalier de Ouis, 1814.

"Laws will be wisely formed and honestly administered in proportion as those who form and administer them are wise and honest; whence it becomes expedient for promoting the public happiness that those persons whom nature has endowed with genius and virtue should be rendered by liberal education worthy to receive and able to guard the sacred deposit of the rights and liberties of their fellow citizens; and that they should be called to that charge without regard to wealth, birth or other accidental condition or circumstance.

But the indigence of the greater number disabling them from so educating at their own expense those of their children whom nature has fitly formed and disposed to become useful instruments for the public, it is better that such should be sought for and educated at the common expense of all, than that the happiness of all should be confined to the weak or wicked." --Thomas Jefferson: Diffusion of Knowledge Bill, 1779.

But as in a former post mentioned we throw more money at education per student than all the other nations combined. So money is not the answer.

What you've pointed out is that money is not the whole answer. It is only a necessary but not sufficient component of the answer.

Actually most of that money doesn't go to the student. Yes they divide the amount of money per student, they can even say that it benefits each student but really they don't go to the student. A new cafeteria benefits the students but is that money really spent on the student itself? No but they count it. Updated books benefit the student and the year you buy the books it's counted as going to the student but those books go from year to year to year, so it's not exactly for that student alone. Buy computers but it's not exactly a benefit for that student only, if you count it for every child it serves, you over state it. If you don't count it for each student who uses it then ignore that durable use of the computer. If you hire more teachers then they consider that money spent on the student but really those teachers don't exactly benefit every student.

If you actually look at the money spent directly per student... it's not as much.

Throwing money at isn't a solution, finding a better way to spend the money properly.

Finding a better way is always better, so you haven't said very much there. The finding of the better way, and proving that it is indeed better - that would be a worthwhile effort. That's done all the time, actually. It is part of what money for education goes toward - the continual search for better ways to educate. Often, though, superior effectiveness at preparing students for the life they'll live in the real world does require additional funding. Sometimes not. So again, you haven't said very much there.

A friend told me that a large number of children do not have computers or other home access to compete at home with children wealthier house-hold incomes. She also said that art is not being offered as much. Researchers all claim that art/crafts, creative studies help round out children and make them better students.

Even the cost of public schools has increased for parents if their children or parents want their children to have a well rounded group of courses. That has been going up for several years and now the cost is getting excessive for even middle class. Certain states charge parent more depending on who is running the state. Why should state elected officials determine what cost parents and what does not? I also believe that getting most of our children text books from Texas, is crazy. They have a bad habit of rewriting history,

Disagree with an article or seed of theirs.

Report their re-regs and then they get banned from Newsvine.

Daniel A. Hallo

Report their re-regs and then they get banned from Newsvine.

Then they come back :)

Then you get to get them banned again.. •¿•

It’s like Wack-a-Mole at the carney only they are more ridiculous looking...

It’s like Wack-a-Mole at the carney only they are more ridiculous looking

LOL never thought of it that way :)