Margaret Thatcher death agony repeated

News Type: Event — Seeded on Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:47 AM EDT

Article Source: Mirror.co.uk

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Margaret Thatcher has had to be repeatedly told husband Sir Denis has died, it was revealed last night.

Her daughter Carol said his death from pancreatic cancer in 2003 was "truly awful" for the former PM.

But Lady Thatcher, now 82, was beginning to suffer from dementia and kept forgetting she had lost her husband of more than 50 years.

Carol said: "I just had to give her the bad news over and over again.

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Ms CYPRAH

What a sad end to a great leader. :o(

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6 votes

#1 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:09 AM EDT

{"commentId":2574840,"authorDomain":"caroaber"}

caroaber

I read that Winston Churchill had gone senile as well.

When I think of Margaret Thatcher I think of the Falkland Islands War and the hunger strikers at Long Kesh. Bobby Sands and 9 other men died standing up for their rights, and other prisoners faced brutality in the Maze. I'm glad that horrible place was finally closed.

I don't know much else about the Iron Lady. Brixton comes to mind. Was she pro or anti immigrant? I've heard both sides of the argument.

Then her son Mark helped plan a coup in Equatorial Guinea and is now a wanted man, yet he evades prosecution.

It will be a sad day when she passes, but I've recently seen attempts to spiff up the image of Enoch Powell by the British media (the "Rivers of Blood" series). Do people not remember what their leaders really stood for?

Forgive me, but I saw the same hagiography when Pres. Ronald Reagan died. The media overlooked the situation in El Salvador and the illegal funding of the contras in Nicaragua, the disdain for the civil rights of Black Americans, the corruption, the interference in Grenada, the connection to Panama's Noriega. They gave us sound bites of famous quips and photos of his Hollywood smile, but the amnesia was appalling. Now Mrs. Thatcher is near her end.

I don't think Gerry Adams will shed any tears, nor Nelson Mandela.

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10 votes

#1.1 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:59 AM EDT

{"commentId":2575129,"authorDomain":"dwemmy"}

demmywemmy

caroaber thanks for the informative post. I did not know about her son's shady political dealings. The apple never falls far...

Still, as much as I politically disagreed with Lady Thatcher, I'm sorry that she is going out the hard way. Dementia/Parkinson's I wish upon no one.

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8 votes

#1.2 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:36 AM EDT

{"commentId":2575592,"authorDomain":"jdoyle"}

jdoyle

Forgive me, but I saw the same hagiography when Pres. Ronald Reagan died.

Exactly right: Reagan was a monster who was later deified by the extreme right and the main stream media.
They conveniently overlooked his horrible human rights abuses and this aiding and abetting terrorists in Central and south America.

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9 votes

#1.3 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:26 AM EDT

{"commentId":2575953,"authorDomain":"douglasq"}

douglasq

I couldn't stand either Reagan or Thatcher but Alztheimer's/Parkinson's/Dementia are horrible ways to spend your final years. To be honest, I have even more sympathy for the daughter mentioned in the article.

I wish both of them well.

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4 votes

#1.4 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:59 AM EDT

{"commentId":2576231,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

Ms CYPRAH

Then her son Mark helped plan a coup in Equatorial Guinea and is now a wanted man, yet he evades prosecution.

Correction here. He was tried and fined a massive amount. I think there was some kind of deal after the trial.

I don't think Gerry Adams will shed any tears, nor Nelson Mandela.

I think you are right on this one, caroaber, but I wouldn't shed any tears on Gerry Adams either and to put him in the same sentence as Mandela does not do justice to who Mandela is. I have never liked Lady Thatcher because of her outlook and some of the things she did, especially fostering a British 'ME' culture, but one cannot be gleeful because she has dementia either. What was it about, there but for the grace of God...?

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8 votes

#1.5 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:24 AM EDT

{"commentId":2577602,"authorDomain":"caroaber"}

caroaber

Tried in absentia, yes? What's he afraid of? Face the music, Mr. Thatcher.

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1 vote

#1.6 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:06 PM EDT

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Proud American-252641

I agree Ms Cyprah, I always respected her as a strong and gutsy leader. It's too bad US can't grasp the effectiveness of a woman leader IMO. Maybe one day...

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6 votes

#2 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:19 AM EDT

{"commentId":2576531,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

Ms CYPRAH

You could say that Britain needed what she had to give at the time, Proud American. We were in disarray with the unions holding commerce by the throat, with outmoded ideas, practices and traditions threatening to stranglehold our economy and she came in with a fearless spirit and changed all that. The tragedy for her is that she didn't know when to stop or soften her approach, like with her insistence on introducing the poll tax,despite the public opposition to it. Even though the times were changing around her, she became an ostrich to it, and was ousted by her own party who saw her rapidly change from great asset to damaging liability in her last term of offfice.

A bit like McCain is now, and will be, when he loses the election!! :o)

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5 votes

#2.1 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:48 AM EDT

{"commentId":2578601,"authorDomain":"fullershaven"}

Proud American-252641

I don't know I am an optimist and I keep hoping he might pick Condie to run with him :o) Pipe dream I know, but hope is eternal.

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1 vote

#2.2 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:15 PM EDT

{"commentId":2575823,"authorDomain":"O-K"}

O-K

It is sad that a great leader ends this way. She will be long rembered.
Margaret Thatcher is my second favorite English woman.

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3 votes

#3 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:47 AM EDT

{"commentId":2576547,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

Ms CYPRAH

I won't ask who is your first, O-K, as I don't want to reveal our secret relationship! :o)

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3 votes

#3.1 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:49 AM EDT

{"commentId":2577196,"authorDomain":"O-K"}

O-K

True, we don't want everyone on Newsvine to know how much I admire you.

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2 votes

#4 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:39 PM EDT

{"commentId":2577292,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}

Ms CYPRAH

Shhhh...don't say it too loudly. People might hear you. Neither do I want them to know how fab I think you are. So we'll just keep it to ourselves for now. :o)

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2 votes

#4.1 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:46 PM EDT

{"commentId":2577336,"authorDomain":"O-K"}

O-K

OK.

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2 votes

#4.2 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:49 PM EDT

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